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Marketing VS Advertising

Hello everyone,
As I look over posts in different forums... not only on this site, but also on others I belong to, I see people use the words "Marketing" and "Advertising" as though they mean one and the same thing.
My question is... How do you define them?
I have been taught that they are two very different and distinct aspects of business. Advertising is a part of your Marketing, but Marketing as I have been taught, encompasses a whole lot more.
Marketing is not only your "Copy" and "Ads", but your philosophy on business. It includes strategies for acquiring new customers, increasing the per client purchase, nurturing the relationship with the client to inspire recurring business, referral systems, testing all aspects of your business to increase exposure and pofitability, recognizing attrition and looking for ways to recover those clients... and the list can go on.
Just looking to engage in some discussion about the topic, and possibly exchange some "Marketing" ideas.
Willard
As I look over posts in different forums... not only on this site, but also on others I belong to, I see people use the words "Marketing" and "Advertising" as though they mean one and the same thing.
My question is... How do you define them?
I have been taught that they are two very different and distinct aspects of business. Advertising is a part of your Marketing, but Marketing as I have been taught, encompasses a whole lot more.
Marketing is not only your "Copy" and "Ads", but your philosophy on business. It includes strategies for acquiring new customers, increasing the per client purchase, nurturing the relationship with the client to inspire recurring business, referral systems, testing all aspects of your business to increase exposure and pofitability, recognizing attrition and looking for ways to recover those clients... and the list can go on.
Just looking to engage in some discussion about the topic, and possibly exchange some "Marketing" ideas.
Willard
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I have been taking several "Marketing" courses recently to better prepare myself for the launch of a new product and business, and have been studying a lot of Jay Abraham material. Coming from a speaking/training/coaching background, I have always been taught to look at the mindset first, and I think that applies a lot to the idea of Marketing as a concept.
I appreciate the responses. I am new here to StartUpNation and am hoping that a thread like this can help expose people to a bigger idea of what Marketing can be, as well as learn from others some ideas I may not have had before about the subject.
Marketing = Product, Price, Place, Promotion
Promotion = Advertising, Coupons, Public Relations, Word of Mouth
Ah the four P`s, I`m getting nostalgic for those old b-school textbooks...three C`s, four quadrants...I need to stop.